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Homosexuality
Published on February 13, 2005 By DevRatn In Philosophy
I believe that Homosexuality is should be seen as "Natural Sex" .Here in the world of Animals ---thr is two tendencies as far sex is concerned :
1> For whome Luv is first then comes sex as medium to express LUV.
2>For whome [Generation X may be] thr is no LUV at all ...only sex.

Homosexuality lies in first category ..mostly ,nobody prefers to have sex with same sex .Actually sometime it happens that one feels happy and secure with someone of same sex ...more comfortable than anyone else ...he/she expresses himself/herself to that person very naturally And that person may be of same sex ..and thr comes homosexuality for True Luv ...so we cannt see it with despise.It also deserve respect.Well for south -Asian countries if lot of people prefer this one [Homosexuality ] ..population will come down to a larger extent ...Lol.

Well those who like Homosexuality just for adventure ..atlast avoid it and comes to natural one.
So "Homosexuals" are just as normal as anyone else but may be more "Emotional"

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on Feb 23, 2005
Just because Myrr doesn't believe in God, doesn't make his opinions any less valid. Your tone is superior and condescending given you have about as much proof your God exists as Myrr has that God doesn't.


It's not Myrrander's lack of belief in God that makes his opinion less valid.
on Feb 23, 2005
I may tell Christians that they are foolish, but I've never told anyone that they are going to hell.


Yes, there are Christians that tell people that they are going to hell, but that doesn't mean that it's something all or even most Christians would do. Sure, there's a lot, but there's also a lot of atheists who are pretty bipolar, bitter, closed-minded, and scientific illiterate despite the fact that they claim to be all about science. Hell, there's plenty of examples of this in this place! That doesn't mean that all atheists are like that nor does it mean that I should compare myself to them rather than the intelligent, tolerant, and stable atheists.
on Feb 23, 2005
Holy palmino how hard is it to understand how this works? Our species, to continue on, needs a way to create little miniature versions of ourselves to assure continuity of our species. So nature, or God, made us in such a way that we could do something in order to further our species. It's called intercourse. Now, sex is fun and feels good, so we make an issue of it like the mindless fools we are. We see it as recreation or in any way other than the way it should be seen as. To continue our species. Show me 10 men, male or female bunnies, male or female dogs, male or female cats, or of any other creatures, and I'll show you a creature that will not be seen once the original die off. Sorry to say this, but the male penis is not created by nature, or God, to be used to ejaculate inside the anus or any other orifice of another male body. In fact, doing so is contrary to nature, where continuance of life is a strict guarantee, as long as people don't go screwing around with it. Just like breasts. They're not created by nature, or God, for you to want to fondle or admire, they're there to feed and nurture your offspring. Why are people so clueless when it comes to sex and homosexuality? Some try say they're born that way. Right. Or that nature meant for them to be the other sex and now they're trapped in the wrong gender. Right. A summary. Intercourse is continuance of a species. Not for fun. A male penis is, by nature, or God, meant to ejaculate semen (your future bambino) inside the vagina of a woman who is, naturally, carrying an egg awaiting a swimming sperm cell. A male penis does not work when it's in the mouth or anus of another male body. Therefore it's useless to do it. UNLESS YOU WANT AND CHOOSE TO, which is, of course, the way sin is committed.
on Feb 23, 2005
Here's my views:

Homosexuality is wrong. Plain wrong.

Here is why I think along these lines:

I am an Christain. I believe in the Bible. Clearly in the Bible it states this in the old testament:

"A man shall not lie with a man as a man lies with a woman. In the eyes of God this is destestable."

There are many other scriptures written on the subject.

Besides the FACT that sexaul organs were made to create offspring. As stated above in the last post I do not believe an male anus was made for sex but for taking a crap.

Up here in Oregon we voted to outlaw Gay Marriage. I voted myself to outlaw it. I hope President Bush does as he says and makes Gay Marriage illegal nation-wide.

Now I don't look down on gays. I used to but now I pity them.
on Feb 23, 2005
Just because Myrr doesn't believe in God, doesn't make his opinions any less valid. Your tone is superior and condescending given you have about as much proof your God exists as Myrr has that God doesn't.

If there were a God as you say, he would have to be very bloody patient to put up with this sort of crap...


dynamaso- i did not say myrrander's opinons were not valid, at least in his own mind. What I said is "be careful". A rattlesnake has just as much right to crawl across your backyard as the garden snake... I would just recommend that you be careful about the rattlesnake.

I can assure you He (God) is "very bloody patient" I was lost and undone in my sin for 28 years until I received the mercy and grace found in the person of Christ and His shed BLOOD!

preacherman
on Feb 24, 2005
What you also said is 'he is blind so to speak'. While I am not trying to defend Myrrander for his beliefs, I am defending the right of an individual's opinion. If you can truthfully tell me you believe his opinion to be as valid as those who say they believe in God, then I will stand corrected.
on Feb 24, 2005
If you can truthfully tell me you believe his opinion to be as valid as those who say they believe in God


dynamaso I have no problems with individuals believing whatever they choose. To be honest with you, God does not mind either. He gave man the free choice to believe in Him or reject His salvation in Christ. I love the fact that I have the liberty to believe in Him and not be persecuted for that opinon. All Christians can not testify to this (the persecuted church in China, Nigeria, etc...)they die for their faith in Christ.

But what one believes must have a foundation and my beliefs are grounded in the Word of God and the Word of God teaches us that the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.- Romans 1:18-20. Hense the admonition to be careful of Myrrander's beliefs about God.

I do not have a problem with Myrrander's opinions about God or anyone else but the Word of God says the fool hath said in his heart, there is no God. And before anyone accuses me of calling Myrrander or anyone else who does not believe in God a fool..... it is God who said it!
preacherman
on Feb 24, 2005
I hope President Bush does as he says and makes Gay Marriage illegal nation-wide.

The reason Bush is pushing an anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment is that the conservatives fear the court will uphold gay marriage as being essential for the rights of the individual.
If the court redefines marriage as a contract between two people of any gender, how will that affect our daily lives?
For the record, I condemn the sin of homosexuality while having loving sympathy for the sinner. I also favor an anti-gay marriage amendment, since I also see the writing on the wall.
on Feb 24, 2005

I do not have a problem with Myrrander's opinions about God or anyone else but the Word of God says the fool hath said in his heart, there is no God


Hmm, I still think you're being overtly judgemental when you continue to use tracts from the bible to state your case. This might work for those who believe the bible, but I don't. In stating you believe the bible, aren't you saying you believe those who don't subscribe to the same beliefs are fools? (I'm not trying to argue, just curious about what you think).
on Feb 24, 2005
I still think you're being overtly judgemental when you continue to use tracts from the bible to state your case


Do you think that only non-biblical beliefs are considered non-judgemental?

I believe we have to speak what we believe whether it comes from the Word of God or where ever!

For someone not to express what they believe because it may be construed as judgemental or harsh is like trying to force a single minded view into perspective (political correctness). You know what I mean?


In stating you believe the bible, aren't you saying you believe those who don't subscribe to the same beliefs are fools?


Yes, I guess you are right. If someone believes that sex with a child is not wrong, does that mean that our government and laws against pedophilia should not exist for fear the may seem judgemental?

preacherman
on Feb 25, 2005
Do you think that only non-biblical beliefs are considered non-judgemental?


No, of course not. In fact, if you look at some of the blogs of late, opiniated people (like myself) come from all walks of life and subscribe to an array of beliefs. My point is using biblical quotes only convince those who believe it.

You know what I mean?


I understand what you are saying. I'm not a fan of 'political correctness' myself but I do see where it has had benefit because it has stopped a lot of villification of people based on their gender, sexual orientation, race, religion etc. Lately, it has been taken to an unnecessary extreme.

Using the paedophilia point is a bit tawdry, though. This is a completely different kettle of fish, and I sure you know it.
on Feb 25, 2005
If I so chose, I could use Preacherman's own Bible against him, because it is full of contradictions.

If there are Christians who DON'T believe non-christians aren't hellbound, then they don't know their scripture.

I don't think any of you deserve torment. Many of you think someone like me does.

I ask again, who is kinder?
on Feb 25, 2005
If there are Christians who DON'T believe non-christians aren't hellbound, then they don't know their scripture.

I don't think any of you deserve torment. Many of you think someone like me does.

I ask again, who is kinder?


Just because Christians believe that non-Christians are hell-bound doesn't mean we are unkind. If we were, then we wouldn't bother trying to teach others about the Lord.

Also, don't you think you'd be taken more seriously about your "kindness" if you didn't act condescending, arrogant, narcissistic, dishonest, etc. or do you just want to appear kinder than the worst Christians?
on Feb 25, 2005
My point is using biblical quotes only convince those who believe it.


This statement is very true dynamaso. The purpose of quoting the scripture is that is the means in which God has chosen to reveal His Word to humanity. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. How shall they hear except there be a preach, how shall they preach except God send them. I just got to do what He called me to do!

I'm not a fan of 'political correctness' myself


We share this commonality. But If you knew me you would know that if I feel led to say something to someone, it is not intended in a condescending fashion. It is one of the faults of internet posting. With out the tone and demeanor of voice it is hard to understand the manner of something that is spoken.

I have nothing but the utmost concern for everyone that I share Jesus with.... even myrrander. I know he gets sick when I say this, but I really mean it. How 'bout it myrrander can we be friends?

preacherman
on Feb 26, 2005
But If you knew me you would know that if I feel led to say something to someone, it is not intended in a condescending fashion. It is one of the faults of internet posting. With out the tone and demeanor of voice it is hard to understand the manner of something that is spoken.


I agree completely. I'm sure you're not meaning to be condescending. In fact, I've very much enjoyed our discussion on this thread. My spirituality is also based around compassion and concern for man, much like yours. Unlike you, my beliefs come from different sources.

Cheers,

Maso
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